Pope Leo XIV inaugurates the Tower of Jesus Christ at Barcelona's Sagrada Família, exactly one hundred years after Antoni Gaudí's death. Fletcher and Octavio dig into a building that has been under construction for over a century, an architect who died convinced he'd never see it finished, and what it means when something that monumental is finally complete.
El Papa León XIV inaugura la Torre de Jesucristo en la Sagrada Família de Barcelona, exactamente cien años después de la muerte de Antoni Gaudí. Fletcher y Octavio hablan de un edificio que lleva más de cien años en construcción, de un arquitecto que murió creyendo que nunca se terminaría, y de lo que significa terminar algo así.
5 essential A2-level terms from this episode, with translations and example sentences in Spanish.
| Spanish | English | Example |
|---|---|---|
| obra | work (of art or construction) | La Sagrada Família es una obra de arte y también una obra en construcción. |
| torre | tower | La torre más grande mide 172 metros. |
| sagrada | sacred, holy | La familia es sagrada para muchas personas. |
| centenario | centenary, hundredth anniversary | Este año es el centenario de la muerte de Gaudí. |
| arquitecto | architect | Gaudí es el arquitecto más famoso de España. |
I've been to the Sagrada Família twice.
Both times I walked away thinking: I have no idea what I just looked at.
And then this week, something happened there that made me want to actually understand it.
El Papa León está en España.
Pope Leo is in Spain.
Hoy bendice la torre nueva en la Sagrada Família.
Today he blesses the new tower at the Sagrada Família.
Right, so the Pope, Leo XIV, has just inaugurated the Tower of Jesus Christ, the central tower of the Sagrada Família.
And this happened today, which also happens to be exactly one hundred years since Antoni Gaudí died.
That timing is not a coincidence.
No.
No.
El centenario es muy importante para Barcelona.
The centenary is very important for Barcelona.
Para España también.
For Spain too.
Walk me through who Gaudí was, because I suspect a lot of listeners know the name but not the story.
Gaudí es el arquitecto más famoso de España.
Gaudí is the most famous architect in Spain.
Nace en Cataluña en 1852.
He was born in Catalonia in 1852.
And he spent the last twelve years of his life working exclusively on the Sagrada Família.
He gave up every other commission.
He reportedly moved into the crypt at one point.
He was completely consumed by this building.
Sí.
Yes.
La iglesia es su vida.
The church is his life.
Trabaja allí todos los días.
He works there every day.
And then, in 1926, he gets hit by a tram.
Right there in the streets of Barcelona.
He's 73 years old, he's dressed so poorly that people think he's a vagrant, and he isn't identified for two days.
He dies in a hospital before anyone realizes who he is.
Es una historia muy triste.
It's a very sad story.
Gaudí muere solo en el hospital.
Gaudí dies alone in the hospital.
Alone, and with the building maybe fifteen percent finished.
He had always said he didn't expect to complete it himself.
That it was God's work, not his.
That future generations would find their own way to continue.
Y ahora, cien años después, la torre más grande está lista.
And now, a hundred years later, the tallest tower is ready.
Es increíble.
It's incredible.
The Tower of Jesus Christ, the central tower, is 172 and a half meters tall.
That makes the Sagrada Família the tallest church in the world, taller than the Cologne Cathedral, taller than Notre-Dame.
And there's a deliberate reason it doesn't go higher.
Gaudí no quiere que el edificio sea más alto que una montaña.
Gaudí didn't want the building to be taller than a mountain.
Es una regla de él.
It was his rule.
Right, he capped the height at one meter less than Montjuïc, the hill that overlooks Barcelona.
His exact phrase was that human creation should never surpass God's creation.
Which is, when you think about it, a remarkable thing to say when you're building the most audacious structure in Europe.
Para Gaudí, la fe y el arte son lo mismo.
For Gaudí, faith and art are the same thing.
No son dos cosas.
They aren't two separate things.
That's a good way to put it.
And I think that's why the building is so disorienting the first time you see it.
Every surface, every column, every facade is doing something symbolic.
It isn't just architecture.
It's theology you can walk through.
Sí.
Yes.
Las columnas son como árboles.
The columns are like trees.
La luz entra como en un bosque.
The light comes in like in a forest.
The forest effect, yes.
The interior columns branch at the top, they literally look like a canopy.
I remember standing there thinking my eyes didn't have the right software for what they were processing.
El edificio tiene dieciocho torres en total.
The building has eighteen towers in total.
La de Jesucristo es la última y la más grande.
The one for Jesus Christ is the last and the tallest.
And now it's been blessed by the first American pope in history.
Leo XIV, Robert Prevost from Chicago, who was elected just last month.
Octavio, there's something almost cinematic about that, isn't there?
The first American pope blesses the completion of the greatest Spanish building, exactly a century after its architect dies.
Sí, es muy simbólico.
Yes, it's very symbolic.
España no es muy religiosa hoy.
Spain isn't very religious today.
Pero la Sagrada Família es especial.
But the Sagrada Família is special.
That's the tension I keep coming back to.
Spain is one of the most secularized countries in Europe.
Church attendance has collapsed over the last thirty years.
And yet this building draws four and a half million visitors a year.
That's more than the Prado, more than the Alhambra.
So what is it drawing them for, if not religion?
Es una pregunta difícil.
It's a difficult question.
Creo que la gente quiere ver algo grande y bello.
I think people want to see something big and beautiful.
Algo humano.
Something human.
Something human, built across generations by people who knew they'd never see it finished.
There's something in that which speaks to everyone, I think, regardless of whether you believe in the theology behind it.
Es como una catedral medieval.
It's like a medieval cathedral.
Los constructores medievales tampoco ven el final.
The medieval builders never saw the end either.
Exactly.
Chartres took about sixty years to build.
Cologne Cathedral took six hundred.
But those were different eras, they didn't have a single named visionary behind them in the same way.
What's strange and almost unique about the Sagrada Família is that it began as one man's consuming obsession and then outlived him by a century.
Y los arquitectos después de Gaudí tienen un problema grande.
And the architects after Gaudí have a big problem.
¿Cómo continúas el trabajo de un genio?
How do you continue the work of a genius?
That controversy is real and it never fully went away.
When the anarchists burned Gaudí's workshop during the Spanish Civil War in 1936, most of his original plans were destroyed.
What survived were fragments, models, photographs.
The architects who came after him have been working from reconstructions and interpretations ever since.
Es un problema difícil.
It's a difficult problem.
Algunos dicen que el edificio moderno no es auténtico.
Some say the modern building isn't authentic.
There are serious critics, serious architects, who argue that the building you see now is a kind of creative fiction, that the modern facades in particular, the Nativity and Glory facades, diverge too far from what Gaudí would have approved.
And then there are people who say: he always said this was a collective work.
He expected others to interpret it.
Yo creo que las dos cosas son verdad.
I think both things are true.
Es un debate sin fin en Barcelona.
It's a never-ending debate in Barcelona.
Speaking of Barcelona, I want to ask you about the Catalan dimension of this.
Because Gaudí was deeply Catalan.
This building is in many ways a monument to Catalan identity as much as to Catholicism.
And now the person blessing it is a pope from Illinois.
Is there any awkwardness in that, culturally?
Bueno, Cataluña y la Iglesia tienen una historia complicada.
Well, Catalonia and the Church have a complicated history.
Pero hoy es un día de fiesta para todos.
But today is a celebration for everyone.
A day of celebration, yes, but also a day that carries a lot of unresolved weight.
Gaudí was a Catalan nationalist in the cultural sense, deeply committed to the language, the traditions.
He reportedly refused to speak Spanish even when arrested.
And this building sits at the intersection of faith, nationalism, and art in a way that still generates heat.
Sí.
Yes.
Para muchos catalanes, la Sagrada Família no es solo una iglesia.
For many Catalans, the Sagrada Família isn't just a church.
Es un símbolo de su cultura.
It's a symbol of their culture.
And now it's finished, or nearly finished, the main tower at least.
After a hundred and forty-four years of construction.
I keep thinking about that man lying unidentified in a Barcelona hospital, and whether he'd find any of this strange, or whether he'd say: yes, this is exactly how it was always supposed to go.
Gaudí dice siempre: mi cliente no tiene prisa.
Gaudí always said: my client is not in a hurry.
Su cliente es Dios.
His client was God.
My client is not in a hurry.
That is a remarkable sentence for a man to live by.
And now, a century after he died in the street three blocks from his own building, the central tower is up, and the pope is there to see it.
I think he'd have found the poetic symmetry acceptable.
Octavio, antes usaste la palabra 'obra' para hablar del edificio.
Octavio, earlier you used the word 'obra' to talk about the building.
En inglés no tenemos una sola palabra que capture eso.
In English we don't have one word that captures that.
Sí, 'obra' es una palabra interesante.
Yes, 'obra' is an interesting word.
Una obra es un edificio en construcción.
An obra is a building under construction.
También es una obra de arte.
It's also a work of art.
So when you walk past construction scaffolding in Spain, that's also an 'obra'?
The same word as for a Velázquez painting or a Shakespeare play?
Exacto.
Exactly.
'Obra de teatro', 'obra de arte', 'obra en construcción'.
'Play', 'work of art', 'building works'.
La misma palabra para todo.
The same word for all of it.
That's almost perfect for this conversation.
The Sagrada Família is literally both meanings at the same time.
It's been an 'obra' in the construction sense for a hundred and forty-four years, and it has always been an 'obra' in the artistic sense.
I love it when a single word carries that much.
Sí.
Yes.
Y la Sagrada Família es la obra más larga de la historia, creo.
And the Sagrada Família is the longest obra in history, I think.
The longest obra.
That's the title of the whole episode, honestly.
Gaudí would have appreciated that his building finally gave an American journalist the right word.