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So, buried near the bottom of yesterday's news cycle, between missile strikes and figure skating gold medals, there's a story out of Tanzania.
At least twenty people killed in landslides in the Mbeya Region.
Twenty people.
And I think it deserves more than a single line.
Bueno, mira, tienes razón, y es un patrón que se repite constantemente.
Look, you're right, and it's a pattern that keeps repeating.
Un desastre en el hemisferio sur recibe dos párrafos y desaparece.
A disaster in the southern hemisphere gets two paragraphs and disappears.
Pero si miramos bien lo que pasó en Mbeya, estamos hablando de algo que va mucho más allá de las víctimas inmediatas.
But if we look carefully at what happened in Mbeya, we're talking about something that goes far beyond the immediate victims.
Right, so let's establish where we are first.
Mbeya Region is in the southwestern highlands of Tanzania, near the borders with Zambia and Malawi.
Mountainous, fertile, historically prone to exactly this kind of event.
Exacto.
Exactly.
La región de Mbeya está en las tierras altas del Corredor TAZARA, que es la zona atravesada por el ferrocarril Tanzania-Zambia, construido en los años setenta con ayuda china.
The Mbeya Region sits in the highlands of the TAZARA Corridor, the area crossed by the Tanzania-Zambia railway built in the seventies with Chinese assistance.
Es una zona agrícola importante, con comunidades campesinas que viven en laderas empinadas donde la deforestación ha avanzado durante décadas.
It's a significant agricultural area, with farming communities living on steep slopes where deforestation has been advancing for decades.
Here's the thing, deforestation and landslides are almost inseparable.
When you remove the tree cover, you remove the root systems that hold saturated soil in place.
Heavy rain plus bare slopes equals exactly what happened in Mbeya.
Es que eso es la mitad del problema ambiental.
That's half the environmental problem.
La otra mitad es el cambio climático, que está intensificando los patrones de lluvia en África oriental.
The other half is climate change, which is intensifying rainfall patterns across East Africa.
Las temporadas de lluvias largas, las llamadas masika en swahili, están siendo cada vez más irregulares y más violentas.
The long rainy seasons, called masika in Swahili, are becoming increasingly erratic and more violent.
I mean, I spent time in Jakarta, which is a city built on swampy delta land that floods catastrophically every few years.
And one thing you learn fast is that the disaster is never just the disaster.
The real story is always what happens afterward, medically speaking.
Absolutamente.
Absolutely.
Y aquí entramos en el núcleo del tema de hoy, que es la salud pública.
And here we get to the core of today's topic, which is public health.
Cuando ocurre un deslizamiento de tierra en una zona remota de Tanzania, los muertos inmediatos son solo el principio.
When a landslide hits a remote area of Tanzania, the immediate deaths are just the beginning.
Vienen después los heridos que no pueden acceder a atención quirúrgica, las enfermedades transmitidas por el agua contaminada, el desplazamiento de comunidades enteras.
What follows are the injured who can't access surgical care, the diseases spread through contaminated water, the displacement of entire communities.
No, you're absolutely right about that.
And it forces us to ask a harder question, which is: what does Tanzania's healthcare system actually look like in 2026, especially in rural highland areas like Mbeya?
A ver, Tanzania ha hecho progresos reales en las últimas dos décadas.
Look, Tanzania has made real progress in the last two decades.
La mortalidad materna ha caído, la cobertura de vacunación ha mejorado, hay más centros de salud en zonas rurales que en los años noventa.
Maternal mortality has fallen, vaccination coverage has improved, there are more rural health centers than in the nineties.
Pero la infraestructura hospitalaria sigue siendo extremadamente frágil cuando hay una emergencia masiva.
But hospital infrastructure remains extremely fragile when there's a mass emergency.
So you have a system that works reasonably well in normal conditions but gets overwhelmed the moment you introduce thirty or forty trauma cases at once.
Exactamente.
Exactly.
Y no es solo una cuestión de hospitales.
And it's not just a question of hospitals.
Es una cuestión de caminos.
It's a question of roads.
Mbeya tiene carreteras que en época de lluvias se vuelven intransitables.
Mbeya has roads that become impassable during the rainy season.
Un herido grave en una aldea remota puede tardar cuatro, cinco, seis horas en llegar a un centro quirúrgico, si es que llega.
A seriously injured person in a remote village can take four, five, six hours to reach a surgical center, if they ever do.
The extraordinary thing is that this is sometimes called the surgical gap in global health literature, and it's one of the least covered health crises in the world.
Somewhere between five billion people globally lack access to safe, affordable surgery when they need it.
La brecha quirúrgica, sí.
The surgical gap, yes.
Es un concepto que viene del informe Lancet de 2015, que fue una especie de aldabonazo en la comunidad de salud global.
It's a concept that comes from the 2015 Lancet report, which was something of a wake-up call for the global health community.
Porque durante décadas se habló de vacunas, de malaria, de VIH, pero la cirugía de emergencia quedó fuera de la conversación sobre salud pública en países de bajos ingresos.
Because for decades people talked about vaccines, malaria, HIV, but emergency surgery was left out of the conversation about public health in low-income countries.
Right, and there's a tragic logic to that, actually.
Vaccines are cheap, scalable, and preventive.
Surgery requires infrastructure, training, sterile environments, anesthesia.
It's a harder sell to donors.
La verdad es que hay algo profundamente revelador en cómo priorizamos la salud global.
The truth is there's something deeply revealing about how we prioritize global health.
Las intervenciones que son baratas y fotogénicas reciben fondos.
Interventions that are cheap and photogenic get funded.
Las que son complejas y costosas, aunque salven más vidas en contextos de desastre, se quedan sin financiación.
Those that are complex and expensive, even if they save more lives in disaster contexts, go unfunded.
Look, let's talk about the post-disaster health cascade, because I think that's where this story gets genuinely dark.
You have the landslide, the immediate deaths.
Then what?
Bueno, después viene lo que los epidemiólogos llaman la segunda ola.
Then comes what epidemiologists call the second wave.
Los deslizamientos destruyen pozos y fuentes de agua.
Landslides destroy wells and water sources.
El suelo removido contamina los acuíferos.
The disturbed soil contaminates aquifers.
En cuestión de días, el cólera, la disentería y la hepatitis A pueden comenzar a circular entre los supervivientes desplazados que viven hacinados.
Within days, cholera, dysentery, and hepatitis A can start circulating among the displaced survivors living in crowded conditions.
And Tanzania has a complicated history with cholera specifically.
There have been recurring outbreaks along Lake Tanganyika for decades, and Mbeya sits not far from that corridor.
Sí, el cólera es casi endémico en esa franja que va desde el lago Tanganyika hacia el norte.
Yes, cholera is almost endemic in that belt running north from Lake Tanganyika.
Y lo que agrava todo es que Tanzania tuvo durante años, bajo el gobierno de Magufuli, una relación muy difícil con la transparencia sanitaria.
And what makes everything worse is that Tanzania had, for years under Magufuli's government, a very difficult relationship with health transparency.
Magufuli llegó a negar el COVID, a recomendar el vapor de eucalipto como tratamiento.
Magufuli even denied COVID, recommending eucalyptus steam as a treatment.
Magufuli died in 2021, officially of heart failure, though many observers suspected COVID.
And his successor, Samia Suluhu Hassan, Tanzania's first female president, made a pretty deliberate pivot back toward the WHO and mainstream public health.
Samia Hassan rehabilitó la relación con la OMS bastante rápido, sí.
Samia Hassan rehabilitated the relationship with the WHO fairly quickly, yes.
Aceptó vacunas, restauró los sistemas de notificación de enfermedades.
She accepted vaccines, restored disease reporting systems.
Pero los daños del período Magufuli no se reparan de un día para otro.
But the damage from the Magufuli period doesn't repair itself overnight.
Las estructuras de salud pública son como los músculos: si no las ejercitas durante cinco años, la atrofia es real.
Public health structures are like muscles: if you don't use them for five years, the atrophy is real.
The atrophy metaphor is interesting because it's so precise.
You can rebuild a hospital building in two years.
Rebuilding the institutional culture, the trained personnel, the trust between communities and health officials, that takes a generation.
Y eso nos lleva a un punto que me parece fundamental.
And that brings us to a point I find fundamental.
En un desastre como el de Mbeya, la confianza de la comunidad en las autoridades sanitarias determina si la gente se vacuna contra el cólera cuando llegan las brigadas de emergencia, si acude a los centros de evacuación, si acepta el agua tratada que distribuyen.
In a disaster like Mbeya, community trust in health authorities determines whether people get vaccinated against cholera when emergency teams arrive, whether they go to evacuation centers, whether they accept the treated water being distributed.
I covered the aftermath of a major flood in Mozambique back in 2000, the Limpopo floods, and what struck me was exactly this.
The international teams arrived with supplies, but half the communities wouldn't use the latrines they built because nobody had consulted them on placement, on design, on anything.
Eso es un clásico de la ayuda humanitaria mal diseñada.
That's a classic example of badly designed humanitarian aid.
La arrogancia de llegar con soluciones ya empaquetadas sin entender que la salud pública es también un fenómeno cultural.
The arrogance of arriving with pre-packaged solutions without understanding that public health is also a cultural phenomenon.
Qué se come, cómo se almacena el agua, quién dentro de la familia toma decisiones sobre medicina.
What people eat, how they store water, who within the family makes decisions about medicine.
Todo eso importa.
All of that matters.
So let's zoom out a bit.
This landslide in Mbeya isn't an isolated event.
Tanzania has had repeated mass-casualty landslides.
There was a devastating one in 2010 in the Kilosa district, over 100 dead.
Another in the Rungwe area in 2016.
Y Rungwe está dentro de la región de Mbeya, lo cual es significativo.
And Rungwe falls within the Mbeya Region, which is significant.
Es la misma zona, repitiéndose el mismo patrón.
It's the same area, the same pattern repeating.
Eso habla de una falla estructural en la gestión del riesgo de desastres, que es también una falla de salud pública preventiva.
That speaks to a structural failure in disaster risk management, which is also a failure of preventive public health.
Porque los sistemas de alerta temprana salvan vidas antes de que haya que usar los hospitales.
Because early warning systems save lives before hospitals even have to get involved.
The Sendai Framework, which is the UN's global plan for disaster risk reduction adopted in 2015, specifically calls for early warning systems as a core health intervention.
Tanzania is a signatory.
So the question is: what happened between signing a framework and having twenty people die in a landslide?
Lo que siempre ocurre.
What always happens.
Hay una brecha enorme entre los compromisos internacionales y la realidad presupuestaria de los gobiernos de países de ingresos bajos.
There's a huge gap between international commitments and the budgetary reality of low-income governments.
Tanzania gasta alrededor del cuatro por ciento de su PIB en salud.
Tanzania spends around four percent of its GDP on health.
La OMS recomienda al menos el seis por ciento.
The WHO recommends at least six percent.
Con ese margen, la prevención siempre pierde ante la atención urgente.
With that margin, prevention always loses out to urgent care.
And that four versus six percent gap sounds almost abstract until you understand what it means concretely.
It means a district hospital with no blood bank.
It means a health center with one nurse for three villages.
It means an early warning siren that nobody installed.
Y además hay que añadir la fuga de cerebros sanitarios.
And you have to add the health brain drain.
Tanzania forma médicos y enfermeras con fondos públicos, y muchos de ellos emigran a trabajar en Europa o en el Golfo Pérsico, donde el salario puede ser diez veces mayor.
Tanzania trains doctors and nurses with public funds, and many of them emigrate to work in Europe or the Gulf, where salaries can be ten times higher.
Es una subvención indirecta que los países ricos reciben del Sur Global sin reconocerlo nunca.
It's an indirect subsidy that rich countries receive from the Global South without ever acknowledging it.
That point is genuinely uncomfortable, and I think it doesn't get said enough.
Britain's National Health Service, for instance, would collapse without healthcare workers from sub-Saharan Africa.
There's something morally complicated about that.
Moralmente complicado es quedarse corto.
Morally complicated is an understatement.
Hay estudios que calculan que países como Ghana o Tanzania han perdido más dinero en capital humano sanitario del que han recibido en ayuda al desarrollo en el mismo período.
There are studies calculating that countries like Ghana or Tanzania have lost more money in healthcare human capital than they've received in development aid over the same period.
Es un flujo neto que va en dirección contraria a lo que suponemos.
It's a net flow running in the opposite direction from what we assume.
Look, let's bring this back to the specific implications of what happened in Mbeya, because I want to make sure we're grounding all of this.
Twenty dead in a landslide becomes a public health crisis through a very specific chain of events.
Exacto.
Exactly.
Primero, el trauma físico inmediato.
First, immediate physical trauma.
Segundo, el colapso del acceso al agua limpia.
Second, the collapse of access to clean water.
Tercero, el desplazamiento hacia albergues donde el hacinamiento facilita la transmisión de enfermedades respiratorias.
Third, displacement to shelters where overcrowding facilitates the spread of respiratory disease.
Y cuarto, lo que yo llamaría el trauma psicológico colectivo, que tiene efectos sobre la salud mental que duran años y raramente reciben atención.
And fourth, what I'd call collective psychological trauma, which has mental health effects lasting years and is rarely treated.
The mental health piece is fascinating and completely underresourced.
Sub-Saharan Africa has something like one psychiatrist per million people in some countries.
After a disaster, the psychological support just doesn't exist at the community level.
Hay una iniciativa interesante que se ha desarrollado en países como Uganda y Ruanda que se llama terapia de resolución de traumas a nivel comunitario, utilizando cuidadores locales entrenados en lugar de psicólogos clínicos.
There's an interesting initiative developed in countries like Uganda and Rwanda called community-level trauma resolution therapy, using trained local caregivers instead of clinical psychologists.
Es un modelo de salud mental de bajo costo y alto impacto que Tanzania podría replicar, pero requiere voluntad política y financiación sostenida.
It's a low-cost, high-impact mental health model that Tanzania could replicate, but it requires political will and sustained funding.
So there is a model that works.
The question is whether it reaches Mbeya before the next landslide season.
A ver, hay algo que me parece importante decir sobre el cambio climático en este contexto.
Look, there's something important to say about climate change in this context.
Porque en África oriental, el cambio climático no es una amenaza futura.
Because in East Africa, climate change isn't a future threat.
Es presente.
It's present.
Las temperaturas del océano Índico están afectando directamente la intensidad de las lluvias en Tanzania, Mozambique, Malawi.
Indian Ocean temperatures are directly affecting rainfall intensity in Tanzania, Mozambique, Malawi.
Lo que antes era un año excepcionalmente lluvioso se está convirtiendo en la nueva normalidad.
What used to be an exceptionally rainy year is becoming the new normal.
And here's what gets me about this.
The countries that contributed least to carbon emissions are absorbing the most severe climate-related health consequences.
Tanzania's per capita carbon footprint is a fraction of an American's or a European's.
Es la injusticia climática en su forma más cruda.
It's climate injustice in its rawest form.
Y se materializa en muertes muy concretas: veintitrés campesinos aplastados por el barro en las laderas de las tierras altas de Mbeya.
And it materializes in very concrete deaths: twenty-odd farmers crushed by mud on the slopes of Mbeya's highlands.
No es una abstracción estadística.
It's not a statistical abstraction.
Es una consecuencia directa de un modelo de desarrollo global que nunca tuvo que pagar sus externalidades.
It's a direct consequence of a global development model that never had to pay for its externalities.
I mean, the climate loss and damage fund that was agreed at COP27 in Sharm el-Sheikh was supposed to address exactly this.
Compensation from wealthy nations to vulnerable ones for climate-related disasters.
But as of 2026, the actual money flowing through that fund is a fraction of what was promised.
Hay un cinismo enorme en esa brecha entre el anuncio y la implementación.
There's an enormous cynicism in that gap between announcement and implementation.
Cada cumbre del clima produce declaraciones espléndidas y compromisos que luego se diluyen en los presupuestos nacionales.
Every climate summit produces splendid declarations and commitments that then dissolve in national budgets.
Mientras tanto, en Mbeya, la gente entierra a sus muertos y reconstruye sus casas en las mismas laderas, porque no tiene adónde más ir.
Meanwhile, in Mbeya, people bury their dead and rebuild their homes on the same slopes, because they have nowhere else to go.
That image, rebuilding on the same slope, is really where public health and poverty intersect most painfully.
People don't choose to live in landslide zones because they don't know the risk.
They choose it because the risk of starvation without that agricultural land is more immediate.
Eso es exactamente lo que los epidemiólogos llaman los determinantes sociales de la salud.
That's exactly what epidemiologists call the social determinants of health.
La salud no comienza en el hospital.
Health doesn't begin at the hospital.
Comienza en las condiciones materiales de vida: el suelo que cultivas, el agua que bebes, la casa donde duermes, la carretera que te separa del médico más cercano.
It begins in material living conditions: the soil you farm, the water you drink, the house where you sleep, the road separating you from the nearest doctor.
Todo eso es salud pública antes de que aparezca ningún virus ni ningún barro.
All of that is public health before any virus or any mud ever appears.
So, as we pull this together, what's the takeaway from Mbeya?
Not just as a tragedy, but as a diagnostic, as something that tells us where global public health is in 2026?
La verdad es que lo que nos dice Mbeya es que los sistemas de salud pública más vulnerables son los que más se van a ver presionados en las próximas décadas por el cambio climático.
The truth is that what Mbeya tells us is that the most vulnerable public health systems are the ones that will face the most pressure in coming decades from climate change.
No es solo Tanzania.
It's not just Tanzania.
Es Bangladesh, Honduras, Nepal, Papúa Nueva Guinea.
It's Bangladesh, Honduras, Nepal, Papua New Guinea.
La geografía de la vulnerabilidad climática coincide casi exactamente con la geografía de los sistemas sanitarios más débiles.
The geography of climate vulnerability maps almost exactly onto the geography of the weakest health systems.
And that convergence, climate vulnerability meeting health system fragility, is going to be one of the defining public health crises of this century.
Not some future century.
This one.
Por eso me parece tan importante no dejar que noticias como la de Mbeya sean solo una línea en un portal de noticias.
That's why I think it's so important not to let news like Mbeya be just a single line on a news portal.
Detrás de esas veinte muertes hay décadas de decisiones, de presupuestos, de acuerdos incumplidos, de un sistema global que valora unas vidas más que otras.
Behind those twenty deaths are decades of decisions, budgets, broken agreements, and a global system that values some lives more than others.
Eso vale la pena decirlo en voz alta.
That's worth saying out loud.
Twenty people.
In a region most listeners could not find on a map before today.
I hope now they could, and I hope now they understand a little of what that number actually means.
Thanks for listening to Twilingua.